Denunciation made on Apr 30, 2010 6:30:56 pm

Posted by: a malik Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 30, 2010 6:30:56 pm

I was new to Alibaba.com, and I was looking for a laptop and cell phone. So I left my buying request on alibaba.com after that I started getting replies from the suppliers.
One supplier gave me very good price, then I spoke to the agent.
As I am a regular buyer of EBAY. I trusted these guys. But this time I didnt know that I will be cheated
by them I sent them money through western union, since they received money they stopped answering my emails and phones.
After several days I got one email, agent told me that we have shipped your goods and you will receive that soon. That “SOON” came after 25 toughest days. And I received one small package with 4 usb flash drives inside, that dont even cost 20US$.
This is how I lost my 520us$ and trust on Alibaba.com

please be aware

the person I sent money his information is as follows

company name : Tengjie electronic trade co.ltd
website: www.tjdzcn.com

First name: Limin Last name: Lu
City: Putian , Prov: Fujian
ZIPCODE: 351100

the email address of agent Anita: tjdzcn@hotmail.com
Agent phone # : +8615892055484

Some other information of scammer:

Ph # +865942829295
Address: Mei Yuan Road, Putian, Fujian
Bank's Account; 4563516407002632583
swift;bkch/cubj73c
beneficiary institution bank of putian china sub-branch
Account title name must be Limin Lu

if you guys have ever read the story of Ali Baba. U must know there were forty thives around.

Denunciation made on Apr 30, 2010 3:32:28 am

Posted by: Daniel Web: on Apr 30, 2010 3:32:28 am

I have no Horror story with Alibaba as yet. I am about to do a transaction with " Leiyang Zhongzheng Business Trade Co., Ltd. " for laptops. Does anyone know whether I can trust them? I'm new to Alibaba so everything is still a bit overwhelming.

Thanks

Denunciation made on Apr 29, 2010 6:25:51 pm

Posted by: Denis Web: http://justfiji.net on Apr 29, 2010 6:25:51 pm

We all have our horror stories from AliBaba, I have been trading online with China and trough AliBaba for the past two years. Have I lost money yet? Not directly. I have received items that were not up to standard or description. I was able to recover my cost, though. Here is what I am really trying to say. DUE DILIGENCE. Nothing more important than due diligence. The saying "if it is too good....." is certainly true. Get those offers, have a good laugh, toy with them a little, although maintain professionalism (read: no swearing/ insulting/ general rudeness). Let's face it, they may not have ethics or a straight bone in their body, but they have a vast pool of idiots looking for a quick buck and/or the deal of the century but are too lazy to actually look for it. AliBaba sellers (good and bad) will always try to get you to commit to a deal immediately. It's their job. Those guys are 18- 35 year olds whose only job it isto talk to you. They have no product knowledge or technical skills. Well, I am talking mobile phone selling people here. I ve possibly three companies in my listing from whom I would buy mobilephones. But I have a folder full of 357 offers and quotations. Such is the ratio on AliBaba. i really is up to you to make the right choice,and you have to take and invest your time and do the research. You have to ask them a million questions. You have to see how they reply to those. Are you happy with their answers? Do they show you that they know their product or even have one in their hand? Get actual pictures. I ask my suppliers to send me actual pictures, even with the daily newspaper showing, abduction style. Why not? Those guys want to take as much from you as you are unwilling to give. If you are unable to hold your in a turkish bazaar (figure of speech), AliBaba is the wrong place for you. As said before, take your time. Get offers from as many as you can, get a median price, compare specs (a product often looks the same, bus vastly different specs), cool off, take a week to decide. They will write to you and inundate you with "How are you? Whats wrong?" emails. Ignore them. It is your money, you make the choices and call the shots as much as possible. Those guys have MOQs, a business transaction has to be worthwhile for them as well. So we get the good old sample/ trial order, with a small premium. Get an agent or proxy, somebody from an international company to act as receiver for the money who then pays those guys after sighting the goods. That goes for TT and the case that the goods are close by. Get knowledgeable about the area you are buying from. Futian is good for electronics and gadgets. Ningbo is great in anything plastic with an electric motor. Foshan is ceramic and sanitary. There is a pattern to China,you just have to see it. You cannot buy anything from anywhere. You don't buy tires from Hebei, because tires and petro-chemical industry sits in Qingdao. Things are simpler than you think. But think before you buy. Internatonal brand name laptops ARE NOT cheaper than China brand ones. How? BlackBerrys cost more than US$ 30. There are no free gifts and "buy 5 and get 20 free"!!! There is no free shipping. Good cue, use your own shipping agency. Get COD via UPS. If you can't trust UPS, who can you trust. No, I don't work for them. If you are in it for the long haul, get a sourcing office with long standing history. Do not deal with new guys, except if they can really convince you that they are the real deal. We all started once and were the newbies. Everyone deserves a chance. TT payments are fine, as long as company name and beneficiary match. I read somewhere that it is hard to open up phony bank account with a company name. It is true. Same goes for opening a company. Read it up on the net what it takes to open a trading office in PRC. CRAZY! Do not pay by WU, always true. PayPal? 50/50. L/C? Good luck for under 50.000 or FCL. Forget about the notion that you will be able to recover ANYTHING if you have been taken for a ride. Write it off and move on with life. Seriously. I said in the beginning that I have not lost any money yet. But I know that I will. Tell me you went to Vegas and came out on top 10 for 10. No way. But that is trade all over the world, not just here. Here it has just been made a little easier to make money and lose it, too. The concept must be good, otherwise we would not all be on it. To sum it up ( Icould write a lot more...!), be vigilant, never trust until you are sur you can, and then back a little again. Choose the right payment method for your product. Don't buy mobilephones and expect the world. Same goes for brand laptops. 2nd Hand, maybe. But really, if we get scammed, it is our own bloody fault. We are the fixers, they are the dealers.

Denunciation made on Apr 29, 2010 10:53:19 am

Posted by: Andre Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 29, 2010 10:53:19 am

The scam that I was victim works like this. You look for a cell phone and find a nice deal in a web announce.
The guy was pretty atencious call you and send e-mails. you deal a cell phone for US$ 300 and he give you 100% guarantee and said he are a register British company blah blah blah. So you transfer the money thru Western Union and the guy ask for more money, because he can't ship just one phone, so you need to pay for 3 phone and will receive one for free.

The guy( Andrea Ivan ) how apply de scam use this references to money transfers:

Receiver's Name: ALEXIS EVA
Address: 28 Essex Street
City: London
Zipcode: WC2R 3AX
Country: United Kingdom

RECIVER NAME: Evans Isaac
ADDRESS:105 MOBILE PHONE SHOPPING PLAZA
COUNTRY: NIGERIA
STATE:LAGOS
ZIP CODE: 23401

I’v found on-line another name for this scammer Felix …
And he apply the scam using these e-mails
electronicsmonk.12@gmail.com
electronicstradingltd@hotmail.com
electronicsmonk.12@hotmail.com
electronicsmonk.12@gmail.com
Icell95@yahoo.com
electronicstradingcompany@netzero.net electronicstradingcompany@yahoo.com
Sales_mobilephonesltd@hotmail.com

Denunciation made on Apr 29, 2010 4:27:11 am

Posted by: Ruth Web: on Apr 29, 2010 4:27:11 am

Do not buy anything or trust this so called company on ALIBABA - "NINGBO RISING INTERNATIONAL".
We bought around 27 Apple Iphones 3GS 32GB that costed us $3000. After that we transferred the money, they confirmed with us and told us that they will be providing us with a tracking number. Everything was running smoothly, until they disappeared, and never came back with a tracking number. Now we dont know if we will be receiving our phones or not, but its most probably a NO more than a YES, because this is surely another ALIBABA SCAM.
I suggest nobody buys and trusts any suppliers from ALIBABA. They are all cheaters.

Denunciation made on Apr 29, 2010 12:52:05 am

Posted by: Ajay Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 29, 2010 12:52:05 am

I would also like to add DONT TRUST THE GOLD RATING FROM ALIBABA, to hte previous denunciation against http://hfzc.en.alibaba.com. I would say Dont Buy from Aliba, unless they deliver it and then pay the money.

Denunciation made on Apr 29, 2010 12:47:21 am

Posted by: Ajay Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 29, 2010 12:47:21 am

My horror story is with http://hfzc.en.alibaba.com/ - Hefei Sincerity Apiculture Co., Ltd. Another person also has reported the same. I ordered a mac and i received headsets. It it purely a case of scamming. The mistake i made was i trusted the gold rating from Alibaba. Guys beware. I will never buy anything online ever again.

Denunciation made on Apr 28, 2010 6:25:46 pm

Posted by: paul Web: on Apr 28, 2010 6:25:46 pm

i have no horror yet, this site i want to do business with has anyone done busniess with it :
Leiyang Zhongzheng Business Trade Co., Ltd.

i had check it with this site and other sites , come up clean but when i google it ,it comes up one time of someone not getting what they order or nothing in box,, so do not know if this is a scammer not , ,,

Denunciation made on Apr 28, 2010 10:59:32 am

Posted by: Bella Optic Web: on Apr 28, 2010 10:59:32 am

I recently inquired about a scope with Bella Optics out of Indonesia. I spoke with Hadi Sumarno who told me, I would have to buy 2 items on my first order and it must be paid for via bank transfer. The total price would be $1400 u.s. dollars and they would pay for shipping to me. $1400 for 2 scopes sounds like a good deal as these go for over $3000 a piece here in the United States. I felt the deal was a little fishy so I pleded to buy only one item at first. Hadi agreed to the idea. A couple days later, Hadi was emailing me bugging me for the payment. I told Hadi, I only had 500 dollars in my bank account. Later Hadi told me to make a payment of 500 dollars and that would cover the product. This must be a scam, there is no way Bella Optics could make this product and sell it this cheap. It is scammer all the way. Don't trust Bella Optics!

http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/107827148/eotech_M914A_Gen_3_Night_Vision.html

Denunciation made on Apr 28, 2010 7:42:34 am

Posted by: Serg Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 28, 2010 7:42:34 am

1. Egoods-Supply.CO.,LTD
www.egoods-supply.com
egoods1@egoods-supply.com

2. Xiamen glostrade (International) Co., LTD.
address : Building 7 ,No.278, Jiahe Road ,Huli District, Xiamen, China 361009
Tel: +86-592-7596231
Fax: +86-592-7596214
mellisa_glostrade@Hotmail.com
www.glostrade.com

3. KeMingJing Co.,LTD
http://kemingjing.en.alibaba.com/
104,Sheung Tak International Business Center,No. 8 Recreation Street.Xinhua District,ShiJiaZhuang 1
kemingjing23@hotmail.com

Denunciation made on Apr 28, 2010 12:56:29 am

Posted by: Tommy Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 28, 2010 12:56:29 am

http://hfzc.en.alibaba.com/ - Hefei Sincerity Apiculture Co., Ltd.
SCAMMERS BIG TIME!!
They scammed my company (IMD) for over 1000$.
Talking nice.. Their web site is full of electronics with excellent prices...
After payment, giving you a track number and then - Disappear!!
MotherFuckers! We will see who will laugh last friends.
Our manager knows many from the Chinese mafia. Be ready.

Denunciation made on Apr 28, 2010 12:33:43 am

Posted by: jonathan Web: on Apr 28, 2010 12:33:43 am

wondering if this company can be trusted. Are supposidly a Gold Supplier. Has anyone successfully purchased actual product from them?
http://huameish.en.alibaba.com/aboutus.html
Shanghai Hua Mei Industrial Co. Ltd.

Would be thankful for any help or info you can give me

Denunciation made on Apr 28, 2010 12:32:08 am

Posted by: jonathan Web: on Apr 28, 2010 12:32:08 am

wondering if this company can be trusted. Are supposidly a Gold Supplier. Has anyone successfully purchased actual product from them?
Shanghai Hua Mei Industrial Co. Ltd.

Would be thankful for any help or info you can give me

Denunciation made on Apr 27, 2010 3:33:44 pm

Posted by: Poli Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 27, 2010 3:33:44 pm

PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY DEALS WITH !!!:

Elec-Trade Co.,Ltd. and It-Tiptechnology Co., Ltd.
(both using same bank account)
www: www.elec-trade/com
using mails/MSN: westlake-trade@hotmail.com
www: www.it-tiptechnology.com
using mails/MSN: it-tiptechnology02@hotmail.com

Bank receiver: Kuan Chen
Add: Putian City, Fujian, China
SWIFT: BKCHCNBJ73C
Bank: Bank of China Putian Branch
A/C: 601 382 640 700 294 5992


they ARE CHEATERS !!!!!!!

Denunciation made on Apr 27, 2010 3:22:32 pm

Posted by: June Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 27, 2010 3:22:32 pm

Hi! Do you know this company Nanchang Laili Co. Ltd?
Company site: http://nclailimaoyi.en.alibaba.com/
Please tell me this good company or this company scammer.
Thank you!!!

Denunciation made on Apr 27, 2010 9:56:09 am

Posted by: iamwaytocleverforthesefakejapanese Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 27, 2010 9:56:09 am

Well dear loserss to keep it simple
Everyone, YES every single supplier on alibama is a scam artist including alibama who are part of the con scam

Do not be greedy and do not expect to buy a porche in china for USD 100,00 while they cost a lot more in the rest of the world. even in Nigeria porsche are not that cheap.
(And their they are proberbly selling the porsche they stole of you in the first place via another scam.

Simples. Only do business within your onw country or the western developed world.

Avoid anyone who send emails that could have been typed by my 6 year old son.

And again don't be greedy.
If it is to good to be true rember that saying

Well this still applies. and especially in China

Denunciation made on Apr 23, 2010 11:49:13 pm

Posted by: kenny pin Web: on Apr 23, 2010 11:49:13 pm

I got scam from Qingdao Head-Tong International Co., Ltd. a gold supplier and a pioneer seller. I Western Uion them $793 for phones. They provide me fake tracking number and after a week latter I confront them about the DHL tracking number is fake. They told me that it was sent back to them. They will now send me through China post. The china post is fake. I never get my stuff. The biggest scammer is Alibaba. They are the one that provide them a pioneer seller and gold supplier. It make us buyer trust them just for that. Alibaba should give me my money back. They should back us up by providing guarenteed. With them costing their own money. I guarenteed that they will go out and check if those company are real. I will never buy anything from alibaba again or pay by Western Union. This is my first and last.

http://Qingdao Head-Tong International Co., Ltd. company and their link are http://headtong.en.alibaba.com/

Denunciation made on Apr 23, 2010 8:38:25 am

Posted by: vasabox Web: on Apr 23, 2010 8:38:25 am

and the same:
Hecheng Technology Co., Limited
first name: LIN LIN
last name: ZHANG
Address:Room612,unit6,layer8, Digital Building,Haidian district
city : Beijing China
city code:102200

Seller is a SCAMM. Taking money, giving fake shipping number and dont shipping goods! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THEM!

Denunciation made on Apr 23, 2010 8:22:51 am

Posted by: vasabox Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 23, 2010 8:22:51 am

HeCheng Trade Co.,Ltd.
http://www.hechengtrade.com
hecheng_service@hotmail.com
Contact phone number:
Mobile: +00-86-15018937631
Tel: +00-852-51037631
Address:
zhongguancun street on the 168th,Haidian district ,beijing,China
name: Lin Lin Chang

they are scammers!
Don`t send them money!

Denunciation made on Apr 22, 2010 8:58:33 pm

Posted by: IMD Web: on Apr 22, 2010 8:58:33 pm

Hi all,
I have a suggestion.
Instead of writing about existing scammers and where not to buy, why don't we have a forum about ppl done business with real and trusted Alibaba companies??
That way we can know where to go to directly without getting lost through all of these scammers out there...

Thanks,
IMD

Denunciation made on Apr 22, 2010 10:58:46 am

Posted by: justynacz80 Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 22, 2010 10:58:46 am

PLS don't make any business with Bdstar Electronics Technology Co., Ltd and Hafei Apiculture, They are scammers!!! The story like 1000 others. The same.

Denunciation made on Apr 21, 2010 9:01:58 am

Posted by: Sam Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 21, 2010 9:01:58 am

sent $450 to a company called 'Jinyi (International) Import & Export Co., Ltd.' but nothing yet, havent been online since i gave payment total scammers, avoid avoid avoid. Spoke with a 'lady' called Aimee Lance.
Payment detail:

Payee: Jianguo Zhou
Account : 4552303 0188 021211 7
Issuing bank: bank of China,fuzhou branch
Address:138,wusi road, Fuzhou , Fujian , china
Swift code: BKCH CN BJ 73E
post code: 350001

Safe to say i wont be using alibaba again.

Denunciation made on Apr 20, 2010 2:40:54 pm

Posted by: Flateck Intl Web: on Apr 20, 2010 2:40:54 pm

wondering if this company can be trusted. Are supposidly a Gold Supplier. Has anyone successfully purchased actual product from them?
Shanghai Hua Mei Industrial Co. Ltd.
http://huameish.en.alibaba.com/aboutus.html

Would be thankful for any help or info you can give me

Thanks

ADMIN COMMENT :

Hi! I think you should take your precaution because I have found a complaint about them at : http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/500004175/Laptop_Fraud_Scam.htm?message=500010220

Denunciation made on Apr 20, 2010 9:02:27 am

Posted by: Rudolf Frieser Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 20, 2010 9:02:27 am

I did order a MAcBook pro 15" and did pay via western Union.
The Company is:
China Web Trade Co., Ltd
Address : Electron Mansion #189,NO. 817 North Road,Fuzhou , Fujian , China
The woman I had contact with is named Anny.
Telephone: 86-0594-2592063
Website: http://www.cnwebtrade.com/

I am very surprised now. They did send me only a pair of shoes as a gift with $0.00. And the sending company is different to China Web Trade Co., Ltd
It is LV Yuan Shi Pin You Xian Gong Si
Adress: Ping Yuan Xian Cheng De Shi He Bei, CHENGDE, China
Since April 19th I get no response from that bad company.

So please beware of this veryfied Gold member. This verfication, done by Alibaba means nothing. You cannot trust it.
So in the future I only use an escrow-account. This is really save.

ADMIN COMMENT :

Thank you Rudolf! You are right! The only way to do business with China is to do with protection. There is no condom but there is Escroc system!

Denunciation made on Apr 19, 2010 3:01:37 pm

Posted by: ruda2011 Web: http://alibabascam.com on Apr 19, 2010 3:01:37 pm

Has anyone ever heard of Lower Buy Trading Co. Ltd - www.coleer.com

ADMIN COMMENT :

Hi! No I did not know anything about them but that do not mean that they can be trusted!